I completly agree with all you just said :-)
I saw the strokes a few months ago and it was horrible. My worst gig experience.
I kind of put it down to the venue; a stupid big space with no soul and too many security slaves with hi-vis vests. It ruins it.
But the band are little bitches. Whinning about the barriers and the sound and...
the only cool one is the drummer.
I saw teh vines live too. I think their singer just acts up to the whole "confused rock star...tortured artist" thing. I don't really feel interested in their new stuff.