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TO LEVI, AN ETHNIC JEW

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Sorry I put it in caps, but I was hoping to catch your eye if you glance at this posting. It's already kind of old.

I have written several other postings about this movie -- why I feel it was unintentionally anti-Semitic, where it was inaccurate, and a bunch of other stuff. If you care to, please look it up. I started a thread yesterday that appears on the first page of this board, and I responded to "anniefay" in her April posting.

From reading your postings, you appear to be mostly taking this as "art". I liked some of the artsy touches to this movie too, but it still upset me.

I don't know if I agree with your statement about the Jews in this movie being treated fairly. I don't see how you can say that, considering that the movie depicts a crowd of hundreds of Jews condemning Jesus to death, en masse. If you take the movie as a whole, what's it's saying is that there are SOME good Jews, and those are the ones connnected to Christ; most of the rest were jerks. Mel Gibson would say that his depiction of the crowds condemning Jesus is "Biblical". That would be an undebatable defense, EXCEPT in THAT case, Mel Gibson should have been strictly correct, Biblically, and he was NOT. Did you notice Jesus speaking LATIN to Pilate in the beginning of the movie? Preposterous! Jesus was an intelligent man, but he was not highly educated. He would not have been able to converse with Pilate in Latin, and nowhere does the New Testament breathe a word of Jesus knowing any other language but Aramaic and Hebrew. Maybe he didn't even know Hebrew, but he probably did.

I am glad that this movie resurrected Aramaic. It is a dying language spoken by, I think, less than ten thousand people in the world. I was fortunate enough to hear it spoken once in a Greek restaurant about ten years ago. I was listening, and it sure didn't sound Greek, or Hebrew, or Yiddish to me. When the men told me what language they were speaking, I was floored. I had to resist the temptation to ask one of them to say, "It is finished" in Aramaic. I didn't, but as it is a dying language, Mel Gibson has done history a favor by preserving it in this film for posterity.

ALL the good I can say about this movie is said in this posting. The rest I found contemptible and prejudicial to Jews, in general. Perhaps Mel Gibson didn't want it to look anti-Semitic, but I thought he was smart enough to balance his production against that eventuality.



TO LEVI, AN ETHNIC JEW

Posted to Utterances




Sorry I put it in caps, but I was hoping to catch your eye if you glance at this posting. It's already kind of old.

I have written several other postings about this movie -- why I feel it was unintentionally anti-Semitic, where it was inaccurate, and a bunch of other stuff. If you care to, please look it up. I started a thread yesterday that appears on the first page of this board, and I responded to "anniefay" in her April posting.

From reading your postings, you appear to be mostly taking this as "art". I liked some of the artsy touches to this movie too, but it still upset me.

I don't know if I agree with your statement about the Jews in this movie being treated fairly. I don't see how you can say that, considering that the movie depicts a crowd of hundreds of Jews condemning Jesus to death, en masse. If you take the movie as a whole, what's it's saying is that there are SOME good Jews, and those are the ones connnected to Christ; most of the rest were jerks. Mel Gibson would say that his depiction of the crowds condemning Jesus is "Biblical". That would be an undebatable defense, EXCEPT in THAT case, Mel Gibson should have been strictly correct, Biblically, and he was NOT. Did you notice Jesus speaking LATIN to Pilate in the beginning of the movie? Preposterous! Jesus was an intelligent man, but he was not highly educated. He would not have been able to converse with Pilate in Latin, and nowhere does the New Testament breathe a word of Jesus knowing any other language but Aramaic and Hebrew. Maybe he didn't even know Hebrew, but he probably did.

I am glad that this movie resurrected Aramaic. It is a dying language spoken by, I think, less than ten thousand people in the world. I was fortunate enough to hear it spoken once in a Greek restaurant about ten years ago. I was listening, and it sure didn't sound Greek, or Hebrew, or Yiddish to me. When the men told me what language they were speaking, I was floored. I had to resist the temptation to ask one of them to say, "It is finished" in Aramaic. I didn't, but as it is a dying language, Mel Gibson has done history a favor by preserving it in this film for posterity.

ALL the good I can say about this movie is said in this posting. The rest I found contemptible and prejudicial to Jews, in general. Perhaps Mel Gibson didn't want it to look anti-Semitic, but I thought he was smart enough to balance his production against that eventuality.