Message Archive
being fortunate, not so fortunate
by kerouac&dylan
2002 August 31
you can't be a transient or a bohemian if your fortunat and if everthing is provided to you, i mean you can't know anything or whats reall, your shelterd, basicly what im trying to get at is Do i not know anything, cause im fortunate? and if so, what the hell can i do about it, i can't help it.
Like Jack said when he left the army,
by fallerte
2002 August 31
gotta go kick the gong around.
but i can't
by kerouac&dylan
2002 August 31
i mean im stuck under my parents rule , i don't know anything, cause im not in a possistion to.
yeah, that's what Siddhartha did
by judih.
2002 August 31
he left his rich palace
and went out to sit under the bodhi tree
worked for him
he found enlightenment and was called the Buddha
but you can't go out into the world cause someone else tells you to do it.
It's not easy to fend for yourself in unknown territory. Need a few street smarts and some self defense methods.
Took my summer wages
by fallerte
2002 August 31
and hung out on Main and Hastings. Didn't know shit, maybe still don't except where to hang.
yeah but im stuck
by kerouac&dylan
2002 August 31
i mean i want to go but i can't, im under the rule of my parents, so what do i do, i can't even talk about truth, i don't have the right, cause i don't know jack cause im fortunate...
what are you saying?
by judih.
2002 August 31
are you trying to be Jack?
Jack's done Jack
be you
with everything you are
fortunate? have a bed and food
have parents who love you?
have friends
have people to talk to?
rejoice!
what's the problem?
yeah but my mom won't let me out of the house
by kerouac&dylan
2002 August 31
and i sit here and try to talk of truth, i mean im an ass hole and i have not control over the fact that im a preppy ass hole who thinks she knows something and has something to offer, when really i don't know shit, haven't experienced jack, except people misunderstanding me cause of my LD, other than that i can't talk about shit, i don't know anything really, and im stuck.
have you ever read the zoo story...
by kerouac&dylan
2002 August 31
i've had this thought many a time before i read the zoo story but its bringing the feeling back, its about these guys who come from two different worlds and the one who lives a rougher life forces the other one to see outside his little bubble, and i was thinking...again...that im just an upper middle class kid who goes to a private school who knows nothing about hard living or whats real or truth, and just like the naturalist say, its cause of my heredity, in part i have no choice, at the momment anyways , just like they said, the naturalist that is. im not trying to be jack, im trying to find and know truth,
you're female???
by learned
2002 August 31
i thought you were a guy...man that's another example of seeing things as 'this', then finding out they are 'that'...anyhow, i felt like that a while back...so i set out deliberatly towards alcoholism and insanity because i hated my sobriety, and thought that beauty and poetry came from pain...basically i fucked my life up deliberately and spent the last year regreting it and being suicidal...just be yourself who gives a fuck? i mean of course you do, but think about it...many great artists have been middle class (ie fortunate) many have been working class (ie struggling) it doesn't matter what hill your standing you just have to develope insight and not get obsessed with changing what your world is cos it is futile...that's the way i see it, but i am only me so i don't know...
kerouac wasn't on the road in his teens
by learned
2002 August 31
his adventures were in his head to begin with, that's why when he got older he "knew" how to have an adventure..he was still trying to do what his parents wanted and expected of him when he went to colombia university right?
btw i apologise for butting in on all these posts but i don't like seeing people fuck themselves up, life does a good enough job of that....think of it like this...life is a fire waiting to burn you down. sothe last thing you should do is bathe in gasolene
well i hope your right
by kerouac&dylan
2002 August 31
cause sometimes i just feel like an idiot for righting and thinking about truth as if i have the slightest idea of what the real world is, and its eatting at me and when its eatting at me i can't do anything else, and i can't get my fucking homework done! and then my mother will kill me, and then i won't ever get a chance to know what life is, will i.
hmmm...
by kerouac&dylan
2002 August 31
i just don't like knowing i don't know anything. or thinking i know something when i realize i know i know nothing.
you are the fire
by panta rhei
2002 August 31
life's the fuel
Well isn't that the stop gap answer
by fallerte
2002 August 31
untill you can get out on your own, read, read, read. The stranger from your oun situation the better. Understanding takes forever, believe me. And I'm not even sure I know that much.
you don't
by litnrod11
2002 August 31
have to go looking for experience
it finds you
"wondering if where I've been
is worth the things i've been through."---James Taylor
what you can do:
by panta rhei
2002 August 31
keep eyes
and heart
and soul
wide open
life will flood into you
if you let it
thanks to all, i think im feeling better
by kerouac&dylan
2002 August 31
though i still think i haven't experienced much because of my heredity, i think i experience and know somethings, and that eventually i will get my chance and i will know more. and its alright for me to talk of truth cause i know whats true for me and thats the best i can do, and i have a right to speek too.
that's the fate of thinking
by learned
2002 August 31
everyone gets it...it's like writing a poem and thinking it's the best thing in the world then days later you read it again and realise it's crap, you get all depresed but the words are the same...you just have to keep writing...writing's not about what you know, it's about what you are learning...that's my take on it
Atta boy
by fallerte
2002 August 31
girl!
i knew that was coming!
by kerouac&dylan
2002 August 31
yeah thanx again.
Take care
by fallerte
2002 August 31
we care!