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Philosophy Weekend: Three Quotes

by Levi Asher on Wednesday, February 22, 2012 07:23 pm
Classics, Existential, Nature, Transcendentalism

Three quotes I like, not necessarily related in any particular way:

When Zarathustra was thirty years old, he left his home and the lake of his home, and went into the mountains. There he enjoyed his spirit and his solitude, and for ten years did not weary of it. But at last his heart changed,- and rising one morning with the rosy dawn, he went before the sun, and spake thus unto it:

Thou great star! What would be thy happiness if thou hadst not those for whom thou shinest!

For ten years hast thou climbed hither unto my cave: thou wouldst have wearied of thy light and of the journey, had it not been for me, mine eagle, and my serpent.

But we awaited thee every morning, took from thee thine overflow, and blessed thee for it.

Lo! I am weary of my wisdom, like the bee that hath gathered too much honey; I need hands outstretched to take it.

I would fain bestow and distribute, until the wise have once more become joyous in their folly, and the poor happy in their riches.

Therefore must I descend into the deep: as thou doest in the evening, when thou goest behind the sea, and givest light also to the nether-world, thou exuberant star!

Like thee must I go down, as men say, to whom I shall descend.

Bless me, then, thou tranquil eye, that canst behold even the greatest happiness without envy!

Bless the cup that is about to overflow, that the water may flow golden out of it, and carry everywhere the reflection of thy bliss!

Lo! This cup is again going to empty itself, and Zarathustra is again going to be a man.

Thus began Zarathustra's down-going.

-- Friedrich Nietzsche, Thus Spake Zarathusra

* * * * *

Many a traveller came out of his way to see me and the inside of my house, and, as an excuse for calling, asked for a glass of water. I told them that I drank at the pond, and pointed thither, offering to lend them a dipper. Far off as I lived, I was not exempted from the annual visitation which occurs, methinks, about the first of April, when everybody is on the move; and I had my share of good luck, though there were some curious specimens among my visitors. Half-witted men from the almshouse and elsewhere came to see me; but I endeavored to make them exercise all the wit they had, and make their confessions to me; in such cases making wit the theme of our conversation; and so was compensated. Indeed, I found some of them to be wiser than the so-called overseers of the poor and selectmen of the town, and thought it was time that the tables were turned. With respect to wit, I learned that there was not much difference between the half and the whole.

One day, in particular, an inoffensive, simple-minded pauper, whom with others I had often seen used as fencing stuff, standing or sitting on a bushel in the fields to keep cattle and himself from straying, visited me, and expressed a wish to live as I did. He told me, with the utmost simplicity and truth, quite superior, or rather inferior, to anything that is called humility, that he was "deficient in intellect." These were his words. The Lord had made him so, yet he supposed the Lord cared as much for him as for another. "I have always been so," said he, "from my childhood; I never had much mind; I was not like other children; I am weak in the head. It was the Lord's will, I suppose." And there he was to prove the truth of his words. He was a metaphysical puzzle to me. I have rarely met a fellowman on such promising ground — it was so simple and sincere and so true all that he said. And, true enough, in proportion as he appeared to humble himself was he exalted. I did not know at first but it was the result of a wise policy. It seemed that from such a basis of truth and frankness as the poor weak-headed pauper had laid, our intercourse might go forward to something better than the intercourse of sages.

-- Henry David Thoreau, Walden

* * * * *

“When another person makes you suffer, it is because he suffers deeply within himself, and his suffering is spilling over. He does not need punishment; he needs help. That's the message he is sending.”

-- Thich Nhat Hanh, Anger

(Photo by me, taken at Neabsco Creek, Virginia)




This blog post is part of the series Philosophy Weekend. The next post in the series is Philosophy Weekend: Nietzsche in America. The previous post in the series is Philosophy Weekend: Groupthink, Group Mind.


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7 reponses to "Philosophy Weekend: Three Quotes"

by w.j.wiippa on Saturday, February 25, 2012 10:34 am

Nice foto!
I could never get into Zarathustra but The Gay Science rocks.
This is the best Thich Nhat Hanh quote I ever read.

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by TKG on Saturday, February 25, 2012 01:03 pm

Sign of the times.

When I read this:

"Lo! I am weary of my wisdom..."

I first read it as LOL.

OMG
CYBI
LOL
g2g

Laughing out loud I weary of wisdom.

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by TKG on Saturday, February 25, 2012 01:16 pm

I enjoyed, appreciated and related most to the Thoreau passage.

The Nietzsche passage was poetic but IDK WTH he's talking about.

The third shortest one, while true enough and nicely concise, I see as pablum (click the link, it's worth it).

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by Frank Dixon on Sunday, February 26, 2012 08:36 am

Think of Thoreau as Zarathustra's Sun. See where that leads you. Think of Thich Nhat Hanh's "another person" as the sun. See where that leads.

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by Bill_Ectric on Monday, February 27, 2012 09:38 am

The last quote is the one that really speaks to me his morning. It's a good reminder to me, so I can react appropriately to certain people who have been trying my patience.

Levi, it occurs to me that your writing on Thoreau would make another great LitKicks books. I remember one piece in particular - I think you wrote it upon declaring Walden your favorite book. Good choice, by the way.

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by mike on Wednesday, February 29, 2012 10:44 pm

3 for 3

“Blessed are the sleepy for they shall soon drop off” Nietzsche

"How did the mad appear in Shakespeare’s’ plays? The fools, the mad. Well they appear as the people who bring the most important wisdom into the plays. They have… the mad in Greek society were considered as touched by the gods; their words were looked at almost as the words of oracles. "

"...existentialism has certainly been good for me, I think. It’s been a healthy thing for me. It cut short therapy, I went to a therapist once, I went three times, and on the third visit I went “Oh by the way I have a question. Why are we born to suffer and die?” and she went [unintelligible mumble], and that was the end of therapy for me. I figured that if she couldn’t help me with my fundamental problem, she wasn’t going to do much good on the trivial problems."
rick roderick

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by Bill_Ectric on Thursday, March 1, 2012 09:09 am

"the mad in Greek society were considered as touched by the gods" - I love it.

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